Frey/October_mav

[Lizard]

I wanted to trade with Frey,

He would send me 1 ooth of Gongylus gongylodes and I would send him 1 ooth of S. lineola and some nimph's.

He said it was oke but didn't reply anymore afterworths so I haven't seen anything.

So be carefull if you handle with him.

I hope I'm wrong butt It'll turn out later if he is thrustworthy I guess.

Greetz.

 

[Rick]

Did you send him anything? How long has it been since you last heard from him?

 

[Lizard]

My bad,

all allright.

He was on vacation, that's the reason he didn't reply,

The ooth hatched during his time away.

Hopefully we can trade anyway.

Greetz.

 

[Peter Clausen]

I have "reason to believe" that Frey is the same as member "October_mav". Does anybody have any updates on their experiences with Frey or October_mav?

 

[Kruszakus]

I noticed that both of those users have almost the exact way of writing.

I have someone who bought an Empusa ooth from Frey, if he don't receive anything, then I'll tell you that immediatelly.

Myself, I have no idea who that guy is, I've never seen him trade in Poland - and I wonder why.

 

[Giosan]

October_mav is a scammer, a very pathetic one also.

Collared lizard: i already told you... trading Sphodromantis lineola ooth with Gongylus ooth is not really 'reality'. Hope you havent sent anything yet, because this doesnt smell good.

Btw, I thought you could block IP's Rick? Or does this person switch computers? :/

 

[tier]

Sounds like this scammer Rhaya from Poland who fooled me. Its always the same: New people you have never heard above suddenly are very prominant and offer only the rarest, most expensive species for much too low prices or they wanna exchange their Gongylus, Idolomantis and Empusa against our Hierodula and Sphodromantis. It seems nowadays every week there is a new scammer (or new name for a old scammer) from Poland. I will just do business with my friends from Poland, like Kruszakus or drizzt and so on.

regards

 

[pohchunyee]

I bought an Empusa ooth from Frey on Sunday August 23, 2009. He promise to send the ooth on Monday. I am waiting for the ooth to arrive. One thing i am skeptical about..... instead of sending me a fresh ooth...he sent an ooth to USA that will hatch in 2-3 days.

Below is our message conversation.

(I wrote)

Hi Frey,

I am interested in your Empusa Fasciata ooth. I was wondering if you sell Empusa Fasciata ooth to USA and how much are you asking for?

-Chun Yee Poh-

(Frey Wrote)

Hi !

Is not a problem, I can sell ooths to USA , cost of shippment is only 5 $

I m accept paypal payment and You ?

Tomorrow I want to send sames orders , I can send Your order too

My paypal is [email protected]

You can give me Your full adress.

Regards !

(I wrote)

Hi Frey,

In your classified you did not post the cost for an Empusa ooth. Can you tell me the total amount (including shipping?). I need to know the price to send the money (Euro) to you through paypal. My address is

Chun Yee Poh

My Real Address

(Frey Wrote)

Oh.

Sorry for that mistake I have forgot about add that information.

Cost of Empus ooth is 25 $ or 20 euro and I m adding a little gift like a nymphs

Thank You for Your adress.

(I wrote)

Hi Frey,

I sent the payment for the Empusa ooth. Please don't sent any nymph, they will not survive the trip and the custom might confiscate the shipment if they found live insect in it. Thanks!

(Frey Wrote)

Hi Chun !!

I m going in to post office

Thank You for payment but You have forgot about cost of shipment , You has made a payment for 25 $ , not for 30 $

I will inform You after I will send a package.

Regards !

(I wrote)

Hi Frey,

Sorry for the confusion. I had sent you the $5 thats missing in the first payment.

(Frey Wrote)

Hi !

Dont worry , is ok Later I will give you track number cause now I m in job.

Please remember to inform me when you will get package.

Aa - one thing - Your ooth which I has send can hatch by 2-3 days...

---I wasn't very please and shows my concern to him for sending me an ooth that is about to hatch!---

(Frey Wrote)

Dont worry, it should be fine smile.gif

I have add a ooth to the wall of the box and I have add a same melanogaster . If mantis will hatch they can eat and shouldnt die.

Inform me whenn You will get package.

It is number of track :

RR 232236462PL

Regards !

---The tracking number was given without providing information on what kinda of postal service he is using.---

 

[massaman]

too bad you cant report people like this to the Better Business Bureau or someplace like it where they can have a database of all the bad breeders and dealers and such!

 

[Kruszakus]

He comes out of the blue, with no feedback to back him up, and starts selling fancy stuff - been there, done that. But what is really interesting, is that I just found out that Frey is from the exact same town as banned members Rhaya and October_mav - what a strange coincidence, innit?

 

[massaman]

well one way to be sure is to confront him in text about similarities in his posts and maybe if any banned posts still around and compare and then if they add up then ban him!

 

[pohchunyee]

Hmm........Kruszakus...if he really is a scammer...could you please go and beat him up for me? LOL!!

 

[massaman]

violence wont solve anything when you can just ban his isp and if he tries to come back as another user rinse and repeat or just go to where he lives and just take all his mantids and tell him hes busted!

 

[Katnapper]

I purchased 2 ooths from Frey around the 19th of August. I was wary of him as he is new, has no breeder feedback, is from Poland (hate to add that in here, but it seems to be a factor in some cases), and has posted in the classifieds for a nice species for a good price. Here is what I wrote:

Hi Frey,I would like to take the two for $45.00. But how do I know you are a trustworthy seller? Do you have any Breeder Feedback anywhere, or have anyone you've traded with that can recommend you? And do you use PayPal? I look forward to your reply. Thank you.

Becky

His reply:

Hello Becky,I dont wanna lie, it is my first trade cause I has only made trade not by internet. Anyone can recommend me now.

I m using paypal - is safefull for You and Me and I think it would be the best way to do a trade.

If anything will be bad - You can take back Your money in paypal, have I right ?

I hope, maybe will be someone interested from my country to get a nymphs or ooths

My proposition - if You will decide to take the ooths - after Your payment, I have 5 -7 days to deliver Your order, if order from me wouldnt come to You - You can write about that on forum and take Your money

I hope hear You soon Becky,

Many regards

So I wrote back:

Hi Frey,OK... I'll give you a chance. Everyone deserves a chance. I'd like 2 ooths please for the $45.00. Will that include shipping? Or is shipping extra? And if so... how much? Can you please let me know the total? I will also need your PayPal email address to send the money.

I paid him $50.00 through PayPal ($45.00 + $5.00 shipping), and he apparently sent the parcel August 21. He gave me a tracking number and here is what the tracking information shows:

Label/Receipt Number: RR05 8995 221P LService(s): Registered Mail™

Status: Processed through Sort Facility

Your item was processed through and left our ELK GROVE VILLAGE, IL 60007 facility on August 28, 2009. The item is currently in transit to the destination. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later.

Detailed Results:

Processed through Sort Facility, August 28, 2009, 2:19 am, ELK GROVE VILLAGE, IL 60007

Inbound International Arrival, August 22, 2009, 7:19 pm, ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)

Origin Post is Preparing Shipment

So all appears good so far. I'm hoping Frey is a trustworthy person, and am giving him a chance to prove it. I will, of course, update as things progress.

 

[bassist]

too bad you cant report people like this to the Better Business Bureau or someplace like it where they can have a database of all the bad breeders and dealers and such!

Report them for what? Not importing nonnative insects to the US?

violence wont solve anything when you can just ban his isp and if he tries to come back as another user rinse and repeat or just go to where he lives and just take all his mantids and tell him hes busted!

Banning his isp would ban anyone in Poland with the same internet service provider Krus could be banned by doing so you can't permanently ban someone from a forum or anywhere on the internet really there's a lot of ways around it.

 

[Kruszakus]

Maybe he should visit this thread and try to defend himself or something?

Man, if it goes on like this, Poland will be associated with nothing but scammers only.

 

[Frey]

Hi everyone ,

I m really dissapointed about that all situation.

I have sent all orders to all people who has made trade with me, at the this moment only one person has informed me - member jarek has got package from me.

Why You think I m scammer ? I havnt do anything wrong and any one person was been thifed.

Now I m only thinking about one case - what You want Kruszakus from me ? I has told You Who I am and You know me from terrarium.com.pl - nickname Bury .

I have told You I m only mantid deler of Ireneusz Piotrowski culture , I can add my visit card...

Please, guys be patient ! When parcels will come to You - add note here and if I m guilty You can ban me.

Now I dont have anything to add here.

 

[Kruszakus]

You did not, per se, introduce yourself as Bury - you just asked if I recalled a guy named Kamil B., and I said that I did not know the guy (I never did any business with him, nor did I talk to him).

But I think I remember you, you were one of them playa haters who was hatin' on me for that parsimonious teens comment like over a year ago? If you are indeed Bury, then reply to a message I just sent you via tcp.com PM system.

 

[Frey]

You havnt understood me !

I m not Bury - I m second friend of I. Piotrowski like a Bury .

Now understood ? You can contact with my mantid provider and ask about a mantids.