Asa
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In Catholism there is more than one way to 'go to heaven'. To officially become part of our faith, there are many rituals. The simplest of which is baptism. There are 3 basic ways to get baptized. One is the baptism most people receive at birth, baptism of water. You get water poured on your forehead as a sign of purity. We believe this removes Original Sin from our souls, the sin Adam and Eve commited in the Garden of Eden. Jesus himself said to Nicodemus, one of the Pharisees at the time, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Baptism does this for us.
The 2nd way to get baptized is through Baptism of Blood. If you die a martyr's death for a just cause (when I say just, I mean just as in our own faith and in humanity's case. So a suicide mission for one faith would hardly allot as a 'just cause'.) then you would get a baptism into the Catholic Faith.
The 3rd way would be to get a Baptism of Desire. If the person who dies, was avidly seeking a true means to Heaven, and would take baptism if he understood its full meaning, then he would be baptized with the baptism of desire.
Even if you are baptized, you may or may not go to heaven. If you are baptized immediately before you die, with good intention, then all your sins will be removed.
In Christianity, sins are measured in context. As in venial and mortal sins. A venial sin might consist of mild gossiping. A mortal sin might consist of murdering or stealing a large amount of money. If you have a mortal sin when you die, then you have chosen, out of your own free will, to send yourself to heck (currently the Pope has asked from Catholic theologians and philosophers to try and come up with ideas that will explain this more fully to non-believers.) If you die with venial sins on your soul, you will not go to heck, but you will not go to Heaven either. You will go to Purgatory.
Purgatory is a state of the unknown. It has not been elaborated by the Church clearly, perhaps on purpose. If you go to purgatory, then you will have to pay the penance for your sins on earth. One of our theologians describes it as, "However strong your moral standards were on earth, they will be in Purgatory. Your moral standards will be like a castle besieged, the thicker [or stronger your moral standards are] your walls will be. There are certain prayers to release people from purgatory. At the end of time, all in purgatory will be released and sent to Heaven.
Perhaps this clears up some things. Please criticize, it doesn't offend, I like a good discussion. That goes for everyone.
In Catholism there is more than one way to 'go to heaven'. To officially become part of our faith, there are many rituals. The simplest of which is baptism. There are 3 basic ways to get baptized. One is the baptism most people receive at birth, baptism of water. You get water poured on your forehead as a sign of purity. We believe this removes Original Sin from our souls, the sin Adam and Eve commited in the Garden of Eden. Jesus himself said to Nicodemus, one of the Pharisees at the time, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Baptism does this for us.
The 2nd way to get baptized is through Baptism of Blood. If you die a martyr's death for a just cause (when I say just, I mean just as in our own faith and in humanity's case. So a suicide mission for one faith would hardly allot as a 'just cause'.) then you would get a baptism into the Catholic Faith.
The 3rd way would be to get a Baptism of Desire. If the person who dies, was avidly seeking a true means to Heaven, and would take baptism if he understood its full meaning, then he would be baptized with the baptism of desire.
Even if you are baptized, you may or may not go to heaven. If you are baptized immediately before you die, with good intention, then all your sins will be removed.
In Christianity, sins are measured in context. As in venial and mortal sins. A venial sin might consist of mild gossiping. A mortal sin might consist of murdering or stealing a large amount of money. If you have a mortal sin when you die, then you have chosen, out of your own free will, to send yourself to heck (currently the Pope has asked from Catholic theologians and philosophers to try and come up with ideas that will explain this more fully to non-believers.) If you die with venial sins on your soul, you will not go to heck, but you will not go to Heaven either. You will go to Purgatory.
Purgatory is a state of the unknown. It has not been elaborated by the Church clearly, perhaps on purpose. If you go to purgatory, then you will have to pay the penance for your sins on earth. One of our theologians describes it as, "However strong your moral standards were on earth, they will be in Purgatory. Your moral standards will be like a castle besieged, the thicker [or stronger your moral standards are] your walls will be. There are certain prayers to release people from purgatory. At the end of time, all in purgatory will be released and sent to Heaven.
Perhaps this clears up some things. Please criticize, it doesn't offend, I like a good discussion. That goes for everyone.
