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AxolotlsAreCoolToo
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i agree with all of you to the fullest you all just think im on the opposite side but im really not cause your not interpreting what im actually saying correctly. no one should be mad or frustrated. im sorry i challenged your beliefs i really want to be friends with all of you and grow this amazing hobby we set up so ill stop pushing my views on you all and just make mantid post. i didnt think people would actually get this defensive cause its not want i want at all. again i wish to empower myself and every i associate with thats it. it ultimately why i shared some of my more deeper thought with you all because this new way of thinking for me is changing me into something so much more full filling than i used to be. thank you all for listening my intentions go out to all the good people on this fourm and of course the beloved mantid we all care s much for :angel:
angelofdeathzz
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Putting on his thinking cap and trying desperately to sound intelligent he blurts out "I should of had a V8!" Then vows to not waste so much time reading anymore topics that have God or religion in the title, it never seems to turn out well on the bug forum. :blink: :lol:
Oh yeah I almost forgot, smile God loves you! I know this as he told me so right after he took everyones money in a lengthy game of Texas Hold'Em. (jk) :angel:
Oh yeah I almost forgot, smile God loves you! I know this as he told me so right after he took everyones money in a lengthy game of Texas Hold'Em. (jk) :angel:
Mime454
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It's gets you a lot of karma though. Not quite as much as your kid does though. 
Montana
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That ended abruptly!
For anyone interested,I tried to attach three of the most pertinent papers (in this forum) on evolution that I think you'd enjoy looking over, but the file size is too big! If you're interested in reading any of these papers below, PM me your email address and I'll send you a digital copy.
- A Revision of Cretaceous Mantises and Their Relationships Including New Taxa
-Molecular Evidence for the Common Origin of Snap-Traps Among Carnivorous Plants
-Phylogeny of the Sundews, Drosera (Droseraceae), Based on Chloroplast rbcL and Nuclear 18S
Goes for anyone: If you're interested in any particular topic, I have access to some databases that have papers like these, and would be happy to locate such papers for you!
Also, as an addendum to my earlier post about early cells, assume that "DNA" is inclusive of RNA (simpler, almost the same, but serves more functions and can exist as transferable fragments that may be transcribed more easily than DNA... DNA as we know it most likely developed later from these useful RNA fragments).
-Montana
For anyone interested,I tried to attach three of the most pertinent papers (in this forum) on evolution that I think you'd enjoy looking over, but the file size is too big! If you're interested in reading any of these papers below, PM me your email address and I'll send you a digital copy.
- A Revision of Cretaceous Mantises and Their Relationships Including New Taxa
-Molecular Evidence for the Common Origin of Snap-Traps Among Carnivorous Plants
-Phylogeny of the Sundews, Drosera (Droseraceae), Based on Chloroplast rbcL and Nuclear 18S
Goes for anyone: If you're interested in any particular topic, I have access to some databases that have papers like these, and would be happy to locate such papers for you!
Also, as an addendum to my earlier post about early cells, assume that "DNA" is inclusive of RNA (simpler, almost the same, but serves more functions and can exist as transferable fragments that may be transcribed more easily than DNA... DNA as we know it most likely developed later from these useful RNA fragments).
-Montana
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Digger
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Yes, Your Honor; I agree the court has witnessed a deep, pithy, engaging debate. But..begging the Court's pardon.. during these entire proceedings the plaintiff has...well..he's HAD A BUG ON HIS FOREHEAD THE WHOLE TIME !
I ask for a recess.
I ask for a recess.
AxolotlsAreCoolToo
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AxolotlsAreCoolToo
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watch this video it suports my claim that western science must redefine atomic structures and the forces they are in but dont take my word see for yourself through real experiments you will all find illegitimate i swear watch the videos all you will be moved its very scientific i promise no mysticism at all.
http://youtu.be/9EPlyiW-xGI
In this video series the currently accepted theories of physics and astrophysics are shaken to the core by a radical new theory of the fundamental forces in all matter.
You will be amazed as a magnetic model of the dome at CERN is used to create a 100 mm diameter plasma Sun with a 300 mm diameter equatorial disc of plasma around it!
All the plasma videos are actual footage with no enhancement or manipulation other than speed. In other words, this is real thing. Hard to believe, but it is all true.
2012
The world just changed.
http://youtu.be/9EPlyiW-xGI
In this video series the currently accepted theories of physics and astrophysics are shaken to the core by a radical new theory of the fundamental forces in all matter.
You will be amazed as a magnetic model of the dome at CERN is used to create a 100 mm diameter plasma Sun with a 300 mm diameter equatorial disc of plasma around it!
All the plasma videos are actual footage with no enhancement or manipulation other than speed. In other words, this is real thing. Hard to believe, but it is all true.
2012
The world just changed.
patrickfraser
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Same
, different thread. :lol: Montana
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I watched this... Can't believe I actually sat through this, but I had to at least entertain the possibility of it containing decent information.
Look... this video takes a cool shape to say that correlation (in shape) implies causation (of different magnetic field properties). I'm sorry to break it to you, but this video has absolutely no scientific value whatsoever.
Not only does it say that black holes are not real... but it says that single atoms have polar magnetic field orientations. It also says galaxies are held together by these differently-shaped magnetic fields, and dark matter and dark energy are fallacious observations. I think I'll trust NASA, Stephen Hawking, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, and common sense: black holes do exist. Additionally, atoms have a positive nucleus surrounded by a negative electron cloud that forms weak magnetic dipoles and ionic bonds in molecules, determined by the electromagnetic interactions between the nuclei of bonded atoms. The plasma demonstration is nothing novel either; physicists have known for a long time that plasmas are best controlled by toroidal magnetic fields like the kind seen in the plasma demonstration in this video. There's nothing revolutionary, and many of the facts are inaccurate too. Cosmic jets are, in fact, ejected by accretion disks around black holes in large galaxies, especially quasars. And what about Maxwell's Equations? Gauss's Law? Everything we know about electromagnetics that are expressed and proven in elegant mathematical equations that apply so universally to everything, from particles in the Standard Model of Particle Physics to charged plasmas in the cosmos?
Again, denying hard scientific evidence (like black holes) says something about the validity of the claims in here... If any of this was true, it would have been picked up excitedly by prominent scientists and physicists. But it has not; it is simply a video made of many simple misunderstandings of established science.
-Montana
Paradoxica
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Youtube is very entertaining but is hardly a good source for scientific knowledge.
I'm gunna go watch more cat videos!
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AxolotlsAreCoolToo
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Mime454
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When we leave Biology...
I need to work on this. Any suggestions for a good place to start?
I need to work on this. Any suggestions for a good place to start?
Malakyoma
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University lol.When we leave Biology...
I need to work on this. Any suggestions for a good place to start?
fleurdejoo
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I just want to cut to the chase here. I can't read all this.
Axo are you a creationist?
Axo are you a creationist?
Krissim Klaw
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Bummer, for some reason going by the thread title I was hoping there was some new huge advancement in DNA understanding/manipulation when it comes to curing ailments and extending our lifespans.
Montana
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Nope, Chuck Testa - I mean, uh... Jesus.
Here's a cool new DNA finding though: Quadruple helix DNA found in cancer cells in the human body. Targeting these quadruple helices can possibly provide personalized treatments for cancer.
Check it out:
http://phys.org/news/2013-01-quadruple-helix-dna-human-cells.html#jCp
I also can't read all this, It started one way and went south! Just so you know, and I don't know why I am writing this, cept God must want it said, and some on here are so much better at saying than I, is There is only one God, and no one knows just where it all started, but God does, He is and was and always will be God. In my little and I mean little opinion, people who do not believe in God are people who do not like to think there is someone who created all there is that what is always was just floating around and we came as a result of that. If that was the case, where did the creatures we evolved come from? Oh I know, us! We were and evolved into them and then evolved back! haha I make funny! As there is nothing that was not made by Him and nothing is new under the sun that He does not know about already. The new things are new to us and there is little enough genius minds in the world to make new things, or by the 20th century most of what we have we would of already had. So what I am saying is and some here is not gonna like this is " an open mind can accept all things" " to deny there is something bigger than the universe (us) may be because a person cannot accept there is something higher than themselves and refuse to acknowlege it believing if they deny it, it will not pertain to them...... just imo. Not ment to point fingers at anyone, just my opinion. Oh, and by the way, it did not just start here, I am over 50 and this forum does not make or break what I think, I may learn something here, but it does not change what I know I know, and when I feel His blessings I know in my heart He is true. Have you felt His blessing today?
AxolotlsAreCoolToo
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yes that is understandable cause i just started to rant and go horribly of topic :wacko:
I dont define myself as a creationist becasue i feel that implies i am defending personal religion or text.
what i have been finding recently that what makes sense to me is there is is a higher force with qualities of omnipotent omniscient and omnipresent natures and has no limits. i see less of chance and probability and more of an intelligent organized procedure, this is how i try to look at history and evolution.
Precarious
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I haven't watched any of the videos so I have no opinion on them, but I understand what AxolotlsAreCoolToo is trying to say when he references masculine/feminine.
Masculine and feminine have nothing to do with *** in the sense he is using the terms. In regard to nature and psychology you can assume the following traits for each.
Masculine:
Active, literal, rational, reductionist, oppressive, hierarchic, conscious mind, conquest, external authority, symetrical
Feminine:
Passive, figurative, irrational, holistic, submissive, nonhierarchical, unconscious mind, assimilation, internal authority, organic
Science is a literalist/rationalist/reductionist venture. Taxonomy is reductionist/hierarchic.
Mime454 took his statement to relate to the sexes because he is a literalist/rationalist/reductionist thinker.
Gripen thinks the Constitution of the United States of America is just a piece of paper because he is a literalist/rationalist/reductionist, and from that perspective, yes, it is just a piece of paper.
And therein lies the basis of AxolotlsAreCoolToo's comments. A balanced mind can see the inherent value in both perspectives while understanding that neither can embody the whole of truth. So the Constitution is just a piece of paper, but with some very profound principles written upon it. A masculine consciousness will see the paper. A feminine consciousness will grasp only the principles. A balanced mind will see both perspectives.
Science would have us believe that the universe is constantly moving toward chaos (i.e. the second law of thermodynamics; The tendency for entropy to increase in isolated systems), yet we see complex, balanced order everywhere we look. Likewise we are to believe that complex life forms evolve through a process of random mutations in which the fittest survive. Meanwhile we see indications of intention behind specific evolutionary trends, such as metamorphosis, aerodynamics/flight, and camouflage incorporating direct mimicry of local predators. To a balanced mind science does not explain how this can be. Evolution is used as a catch-all and any who question how chaos leads to complex order are shunned and belittled.
Intelligent design, on the other hand, is a reductionist attempt to produce a literal/rational explanation for figurative/irrational concepts - and so, a complete waste of time. While Creationism is a complete cop out.
Equally interesting is the gusto with which literalist/rationalist/reductionist minds eat up ideas such as dark matter and The Big Bang which are equivalent to fairy dust and mythology taken literally.
Meanwhile, the deeper science delves into matter and the universe the more figurative/irrational/holistic it is forced to become. Matter is mostly empty space, particles are also waves, quantum entanglement allows for "spooky action at a distance", the spin of a particle may express only half-integer values, Feynman diagrams suggest that quantum interactions are equally valid in either direction of time, and so on. It is becoming apparent that the literalist/rationalist/reductionist model is incapable of expressing the whole of truth.
Unfortunately, organized Christianity, too, is masculine as it is literalist/authoritarian/hierarchic. The Catholic church has worked very hard over the last 2,000 years to suppress the feminine, which they did not only through philosophical exercises but also literally through oppression of women.
The history of the world since the rise of the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) is a masculine history of authoritarianism, bloodshed, and conquest. The feminine current was purged from the world through the destruction of the 'pagan' religions along with the associated disconnect of humanity from the spiritual/instinctual realm. Allegorical religious texts became literal histories, and heaven became a literal place rather than a state of mind. And so we find ourselves in an ugly world where nature and even other human beings are judged by their potential monetary value, because this is how literalists are forced to see the world. Only matter exists, therefore only material concerns matter. You can't prove what you feel therefore your feelings and intuitions are worthless.
Frankly, I feel sorry for any who lack connection to the wonder embodied within the unconscious mind. This is where all unrealized potential exists, the pool we draw from through the creative process. Most only touch upon this realm in dream, then write it off as nonsense upon awakening. But those in touch with the feminine current are able to bring that potential through to conscious life. Those are the geniuses, like Einstein - whose theory of relativity is a profound statement pointing out that time is NOT a constant and, therefore, illusion depending upon conscious observation (Time is relative to the observer), proving in scientific terms what the mystics have stated since man's prehistory.
...END RANT...
Masculine and feminine have nothing to do with *** in the sense he is using the terms. In regard to nature and psychology you can assume the following traits for each.
Masculine:
Active, literal, rational, reductionist, oppressive, hierarchic, conscious mind, conquest, external authority, symetrical
Feminine:
Passive, figurative, irrational, holistic, submissive, nonhierarchical, unconscious mind, assimilation, internal authority, organic
Science is a literalist/rationalist/reductionist venture. Taxonomy is reductionist/hierarchic.
Mime454 took his statement to relate to the sexes because he is a literalist/rationalist/reductionist thinker.
Gripen thinks the Constitution of the United States of America is just a piece of paper because he is a literalist/rationalist/reductionist, and from that perspective, yes, it is just a piece of paper.
And therein lies the basis of AxolotlsAreCoolToo's comments. A balanced mind can see the inherent value in both perspectives while understanding that neither can embody the whole of truth. So the Constitution is just a piece of paper, but with some very profound principles written upon it. A masculine consciousness will see the paper. A feminine consciousness will grasp only the principles. A balanced mind will see both perspectives.
Science would have us believe that the universe is constantly moving toward chaos (i.e. the second law of thermodynamics; The tendency for entropy to increase in isolated systems), yet we see complex, balanced order everywhere we look. Likewise we are to believe that complex life forms evolve through a process of random mutations in which the fittest survive. Meanwhile we see indications of intention behind specific evolutionary trends, such as metamorphosis, aerodynamics/flight, and camouflage incorporating direct mimicry of local predators. To a balanced mind science does not explain how this can be. Evolution is used as a catch-all and any who question how chaos leads to complex order are shunned and belittled.
Intelligent design, on the other hand, is a reductionist attempt to produce a literal/rational explanation for figurative/irrational concepts - and so, a complete waste of time. While Creationism is a complete cop out.
Equally interesting is the gusto with which literalist/rationalist/reductionist minds eat up ideas such as dark matter and The Big Bang which are equivalent to fairy dust and mythology taken literally.
Meanwhile, the deeper science delves into matter and the universe the more figurative/irrational/holistic it is forced to become. Matter is mostly empty space, particles are also waves, quantum entanglement allows for "spooky action at a distance", the spin of a particle may express only half-integer values, Feynman diagrams suggest that quantum interactions are equally valid in either direction of time, and so on. It is becoming apparent that the literalist/rationalist/reductionist model is incapable of expressing the whole of truth.
Unfortunately, organized Christianity, too, is masculine as it is literalist/authoritarian/hierarchic. The Catholic church has worked very hard over the last 2,000 years to suppress the feminine, which they did not only through philosophical exercises but also literally through oppression of women.
The history of the world since the rise of the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) is a masculine history of authoritarianism, bloodshed, and conquest. The feminine current was purged from the world through the destruction of the 'pagan' religions along with the associated disconnect of humanity from the spiritual/instinctual realm. Allegorical religious texts became literal histories, and heaven became a literal place rather than a state of mind. And so we find ourselves in an ugly world where nature and even other human beings are judged by their potential monetary value, because this is how literalists are forced to see the world. Only matter exists, therefore only material concerns matter. You can't prove what you feel therefore your feelings and intuitions are worthless.
Frankly, I feel sorry for any who lack connection to the wonder embodied within the unconscious mind. This is where all unrealized potential exists, the pool we draw from through the creative process. Most only touch upon this realm in dream, then write it off as nonsense upon awakening. But those in touch with the feminine current are able to bring that potential through to conscious life. Those are the geniuses, like Einstein - whose theory of relativity is a profound statement pointing out that time is NOT a constant and, therefore, illusion depending upon conscious observation (Time is relative to the observer), proving in scientific terms what the mystics have stated since man's prehistory.
...END RANT...
