Finaly Found the Video with the Giant Mantis 20cm + ...

[gripen]

I suppose you've bred them for multiple generations and are an expert on the subject.

Macromantids hold the current world record for wingspan of mantids capable of flight. Males have an average wingspan of 17cm, and their body reaches about the same length. Females are even bigger.

Well considering you did not even know what continent they lived on then I presume I know much more about them than you do. BTW females are actually smaller than males by length but are much bulkier.

 

[patrickfraser]

BS

 

[psyconiko]

Where does he video come from?People seem to be from Papua or New Guinea.Do you know?

 

[TheOtherSpecies]

<p>gripen and Malakyoma,</p>

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<p>So is this the reason we don't have the chat room available right now? and I'm not saying you two! Because people can't agree to disagree or take into consideration that anything is possible regardless of the species? Sometimes things are outside of what's normal. I'm sure you both have your points but take it to a PM because things like this are a waste of my time and I'm sure I am not the only one who feels this way. I ask this out of respect not because I dislike either of you!</p>

 

[Meadow98684]

I'm a believer...when I was a child, I saw a big bee the size of beaver and for some reason I am 50 percent sure it wasn't a dream because I remember it so clearly and the exact location. But who knows.

 

[glock34girl]

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[gripen]

<p>gripen and Malakyoma,</p>

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<p>So is this the reason we don't have the chat room available right now? and I'm not saying you two! Because people can't agree to disagree or take into consideration that anything is possible regardless of the species? Sometimes things are outside of what's normal. I'm sure you both have your points but take it to a PM because things like this are a waste of my time and I'm sure I am not the only one who feels this way. I ask this out of respect not because I dislike either of you!</p>

I was just correcting misinformation. I have great respect for Malakyoma as well but he should have checked his facts before posting.

 

[SilentDeviL]

Where does he video come from?People seem to be from Papua or New Guinea.Do you know?

Nikko I went back to the Video the Location is West Papua

 

[mantid_mike]

Where does he video come from?People seem to be from Papua or New Guinea.Do you know?

I think you're spot on. The men are wearing a koteka. You can probably identify the tribe by the way the direction/length that the koteka projects outward.

@albert: the video is so long! It's buffering really slow on my phone. I'll check it out when I get home.

 

[SilentDeviL]

I think you're spot on. The men are wearing a koteka. You can probably identify the tribe by the way the direction/length that the koteka projects outward.

@albert: the video is so long! It's buffering really slow on my phone. I'll check it out when I get home.

NP Mike lol If you don't want to watch the Whole thing just fast forward to 22min 20second ..

 

[brancsikia339]

Macromantis is from South America...

Anyway the hierodula sp from New Guinea are...

H. aruana

H. biaka

H. ingens

H. kapaurana

H. monochroa

H. papua

 

[mantid_mike]

Macromantis is from South America...

Anyway the hierodula sp from New Guinea are...

H. aruana

H. biaka

H. ingens

H. kapaurana

H. monochroa

H. papua

Do any of these species get that big?

 

[patrickfraser]

Do any of these species get that big?

Obviously they must, but just HOW big is the question.

 

[SilentDeviL]

From the Video It does Look like a type of Hierodula sp ... but just not sure witch one ...

 

[gripen]

Assuming it is real it could also be rhombodera sp.

 

[brancsikia339]

Do any of these species get that big?

don't know, i know just the names and locations. sorry

 

[psyconiko]

Ok I have been checking around and it may be a new species.Lots of inverts from Papua/New Guinea remain unknown and yet to be discovered.Some recent scientific expeditions brought back many different sp from this Island.Most of those expeditions focused on the mountains area,really hostile places where many animals have never been observed by zoologists.

Anyway regarding the size of that mantis,it is possibly an example of Island gigantism....Also the biggest inverts species are found in this Oceanic area:Wetas,Phoebaticus,Heteropteryx,Extatosoma....and even the Giant Fijian long horned beetle(I would not expect to find the biggest beetle in the world living in these far islands...)

I am not sure it is that big though...because of the camera angle and the unknown exact size of the person holding that big mama,it can be confusing...Perhaps around 17 to 18cm would be a max...Which is still huge.

Last thing,I found this on Wikipedia about ^some tribes living out there:"Tribes of very short people are also found in the mountains of New Guinea"...small hands?haha.

 

[Krissim Klaw]

If u look at the Pic ... It looks like a adult to me from the arm .. But even if was a child he would be 10yr or older ... So the Mantis that was holding is easily over 20cm don't matter if is adult or child..

My focus was to show the Video so we know this Pic was not fake ... Not trying to prove who's holding the mantis.

I never thought the photo was faked though the big questions I remember around it were over the fact we can't see how big of a person is holding it and also the angle. I was hoping the video might have more information but alas it doesn't. The way the person is holding it the mantis is much closer to the lens than their body so it can also create the illusion of being larger than it really is. I'm not denying it could be an impressive specimen, but it is sadly hard to gauge the true size going off of what we have.

 

[SilentDeviL]

I never thought the photo was faked though the big questions I remember around it were over the fact we can't see how big of a person is holding it and also the angle. I was hoping the video might have more information but alas it doesn't. The way the person is holding it the mantis is much closer to the lens than their body so it can also create the illusion of being larger than it really is. I'm not denying it could be an impressive specimen, but it is sadly hard to gauge the true size going off of what we have.

agreed. too bad thats the best info i can fund i hope more sicentist would go there and find out the sp in that location.... they sure do look pretty big.. it is possivle wild mantis grow bigger due to the food they can get..

 

[psyconiko]

Mantis are actually smaller in the wild.So I guess it is not its max possible size.Wonder if it flies....a flying fortress.