It's best to "fill in the void" with roaches anyways. Mantises require a varied diet to thrive.
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I have been sick with giardia for over a week but today I was pretty ok feeling. I'll be getting to people I was selling stuffs to later tomorrow!
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Introvertebrate
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My roaches love Repashy Bug Burger, but it ain't cheap. Today, I didn't have enough Bug Burger left to mix up a full batch, so I added some inexpensive poultry feed to it. So about 50% Bug Burger and 50% chick feed. My roaches seem to like this new mixture just as much as pure Repashy.
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Introvertebrate
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I've been diagnosed with CDO. It's like OCD, but all the letters are in alphabetical order as they should be.
What is that exactly? I looked into it but can't find any mental conditions under it.
I have OCD and still find this hilarious.
Introvertebrate
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My brother sends me jokes. Just thought I'd share.
Once again the "should I get tested for autism" thoughts haunt my brain.
Introvertebrate
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I'm just fine, so long as the peas don't touch the carrots.
ANTdrew
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Many of my students have BAD syndrome.
My father has an unfortunate case of AC-CD syndrome. We’re all plagued by something.
Introvertebrate
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I found an interesting idea on FB. The inventor refers to it as the “Anti-Male-Eating” Collar. Try to picture a little paper dog funnel around the female mantis's neck. It blocks her peripheral vision and, I suspect, makes it harder for her to reach around and snag her gentleman caller.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/482099469492731/user/100007448357428/
The FB post linked to an article with yet another idea. Let's call it the raptorial immobilizer. I actually suggested the arm restraint technique over 10 years ago, but that Malakyoma dude had a conniption.
https://mantidforum.net/threads/experiment-f01-a-shot-of-flies.29526/#post-242866
https://www.facebook.com/groups/482099469492731/user/100007448357428/
The FB post linked to an article with yet another idea. Let's call it the raptorial immobilizer. I actually suggested the arm restraint technique over 10 years ago, but that Malakyoma dude had a conniption.
https://mantidforum.net/threads/experiment-f01-a-shot-of-flies.29526/#post-242866
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Oh, lol yeah, we call that the cone of shame. They do get a little distressed, but eventually settle down after a few minutes. I've heard of mantises breeding successfully with it.
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Introvertebrate
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Just thought I'd document the full text here for the collar. Forums are better for archiving. Who knows if I'll ever find it again on FB. This is Andrea Mercado's idea. I asked him why the method is only suitable for larger species. I haven't heard back yet.
"Wanted to share a new breeding method I’ve come up with that I’ve been using for a little over a year now. I call it the “Anti-Male-Eating” Collar! (Or “cone of shame”) Here’s 2 different orchid pairings from last night as an example
[What is it?]
Just a paper collar made out of printer paper or flashcard paper so the female can’t get to the male. They sometimes get annoyed at first when putting it on but shortly forget it’s there and don’t mind at all! It’s placed at the base of their upper bodies underneath their arms so it’s not hazardous. This way if I’m too busy to monitor them I can sleep at night knowing I can trust the male will still be safe and in one piece in the morning.
[How does it work?]
It prevents her from seeing him and wanting to turn around to get him. Can’t make it too big or else they’ll get annoyed they can’t crawl. After the male is finished and doesn’t do anything for 2-3 hours after, I’ll gently nudge him and he’ll jump off. After I separate them I immediately remove her collar. (Video of removal included)
[Is it safe?]
Yes! Though you can’t make the hole in the middle TOO big or else it can actually become hazardous if they manage to put their feet or arm through it then they can get stuck or uncomfortable. Make the center hole not too small but big enough that it fits perfectly around their body. Be very gentle when taking off.
[What are the cons?]
Only con is the female can’t preen her feet and that’s often the time she’ll see the male and eat him. But because they’re upside down in the same spot for hours they forget it’s there and don’t mind it at all. However this method won’t work for smaller mantids like boxers, spinies, Creobroter, etc. This method only works on medium and large mantids like orchids, Hierodula, Rhombodera, etc.
[Should I try this?]
Feel free it’s up to you! From my experience I’ve never lost a male when using this method and often use it when I don’t have many males and need them alive. It works 90% of the time. I say 90% incase the female manages to take it off or eat the male. (Have had females take it off before when used with flimsy paper). Some breeders have already tried this method before and it saves their males! If you try this for the first time use regular or printer paper to figure out the correct size to ensure the comfort and safety of your female! (Bottle cap used as stencil for orchid)."
"Wanted to share a new breeding method I’ve come up with that I’ve been using for a little over a year now. I call it the “Anti-Male-Eating” Collar! (Or “cone of shame”) Here’s 2 different orchid pairings from last night as an example
[What is it?]
Just a paper collar made out of printer paper or flashcard paper so the female can’t get to the male. They sometimes get annoyed at first when putting it on but shortly forget it’s there and don’t mind at all! It’s placed at the base of their upper bodies underneath their arms so it’s not hazardous. This way if I’m too busy to monitor them I can sleep at night knowing I can trust the male will still be safe and in one piece in the morning.
[How does it work?]
It prevents her from seeing him and wanting to turn around to get him. Can’t make it too big or else they’ll get annoyed they can’t crawl. After the male is finished and doesn’t do anything for 2-3 hours after, I’ll gently nudge him and he’ll jump off. After I separate them I immediately remove her collar. (Video of removal included)
[Is it safe?]
Yes! Though you can’t make the hole in the middle TOO big or else it can actually become hazardous if they manage to put their feet or arm through it then they can get stuck or uncomfortable. Make the center hole not too small but big enough that it fits perfectly around their body. Be very gentle when taking off.
[What are the cons?]
Only con is the female can’t preen her feet and that’s often the time she’ll see the male and eat him. But because they’re upside down in the same spot for hours they forget it’s there and don’t mind it at all. However this method won’t work for smaller mantids like boxers, spinies, Creobroter, etc. This method only works on medium and large mantids like orchids, Hierodula, Rhombodera, etc.
[Should I try this?]
Feel free it’s up to you! From my experience I’ve never lost a male when using this method and often use it when I don’t have many males and need them alive. It works 90% of the time. I say 90% incase the female manages to take it off or eat the male. (Have had females take it off before when used with flimsy paper). Some breeders have already tried this method before and it saves their males! If you try this for the first time use regular or printer paper to figure out the correct size to ensure the comfort and safety of your female! (Bottle cap used as stencil for orchid)."
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Yeah it’s just a cone of shame. I’ve got one made for the H. majuscula I’ll be breeding. I can’t imagine why someone would harp on this method, but I think it’s obvious it doesn’t hurt the mantis.Just thought I'd document the full text here for the collar. Forums are better for archiving. Who knows if I'll ever find it again on FB. This is Andrea Mercado's idea. I asked him why the method is only suitable for larger species. I haven't heard back yet.
"Wanted to share a new breeding method I’ve come up with that I’ve been using for a little over a year now. I call it the “Anti-Male-Eating” Collar! (Or “cone of shame”) Here’s 2 different orchid pairings from last night as an example
[What is it?]
Just a paper collar made out of printer paper or flashcard paper so the female can’t get to the male. They sometimes get annoyed at first when putting it on but shortly forget it’s there and don’t mind at all! It’s placed at the base of their upper bodies underneath their arms so it’s not hazardous. This way if I’m too busy to monitor them I can sleep at night knowing I can trust the male will still be safe and in one piece in the morning.
[How does it work?]
It prevents her from seeing him and wanting to turn around to get him. Can’t make it too big or else they’ll get annoyed they can’t crawl. After the male is finished and doesn’t do anything for 2-3 hours after, I’ll gently nudge him and he’ll jump off. After I separate them I immediately remove her collar. (Video of removal included)
[Is it safe?]
Yes! Though you can’t make the hole in the middle TOO big or else it can actually become hazardous if they manage to put their feet or arm through it then they can get stuck or uncomfortable. Make the center hole not too small but big enough that it fits perfectly around their body. Be very gentle when taking off.
[What are the cons?]
Only con is the female can’t preen her feet and that’s often the time she’ll see the male and eat him. But because they’re upside down in the same spot for hours they forget it’s there and don’t mind it at all. However this method won’t work for smaller mantids like boxers, spinies, Creobroter, etc. This method only works on medium and large mantids like orchids, Hierodula, Rhombodera, etc.
[Should I try this?]
Feel free it’s up to you! From my experience I’ve never lost a male when using this method and often use it when I don’t have many males and need them alive. It works 90% of the time. I say 90% incase the female manages to take it off or eat the male. (Have had females take it off before when used with flimsy paper). Some breeders have already tried this method before and it saves their males! If you try this for the first time use regular or printer paper to figure out the correct size to ensure the comfort and safety of your female! (Bottle cap used as stencil for orchid)."
Introvertebrate
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Funny. Why do I doubt that you even knew about it? Anyway, who's harping? I would say that fellow on FB is informing.
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?? I learned about this method months ago. We call it the cone of shame in MantisMeet lol.
As for the harping, I checked out your raptor immobilization suggestion. I just don't want anyone trying to shoot down the cone when it a perfectly safe method just because it counts as interfering with a natural process.
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can anyone uhh help me?, I think my mantis molted the wrong way.. it started with the abdomen.
Firenkyo
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Can you show some pictures? It might also help to make your own thread, probably in this section
https://mantidforum.net/forums/health-issues.3/
