what mantis is this?

[cg346]

I've recently been on holiday to southern France and brought home some mantids I found in some bushes...

Could anyone help me with identifying these mantids with the following photos?

I guess they belong together, one being male and one of them female... but also with this I'm not 100% sure.

There are some clear black markings on the wings of the female.

my guess probably goes to iris oratoria or ameles decolor.

thx very much in advance,

chris

 

[idolomantis]

whats the size?

 

[cg346]

the female (upper picture) about 2.5cm, the male (lower picture) a bit more than 3cm

 

[idolomantis]

2 big for ameles.

 

[Giosan]

One of our A. decolor males is around 3cm so it guess it's A. decolor. Also depends how you measure them. Wings are quite long.

 

[cg346]

the male is probably a.decolor

with the female i'm not quite sure...

hasn't anyone got a clue concerning the black markings on the wings?

 

[idolomantis]

the male is probably a.decolorwith the female i'm not quite sure...

hasn't anyone got a clue concerning the black markings on the wings?

not really.. it's weird.

 

[collinchang635]

Male looks a lot like ameles

 

[Christian]

It's Ameles decolor. The female is mismoulted.