Hysteresis' Mantis Stream - 2019

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I guess I'll slow these males down and keep them at room temp, and keep the females with the panthers, in the high 70s.

Petunia and Jasmine 😫 dont have males, so they're eye candy for now. 🤣

Any risk to female adult orchid females at room temperature? 

 
You'd probably have better luck keeping them normal or a bit warmer than normal and powerfeed them, then mate with your adult gals. 

- MantisGirl13

 
hysteresis said:
Ahhhh 😍

Great advice. TY.

Are older females more tolerant with young males? Different genes too.
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Sure! Just remember, I still haven't bred this species so that's just my opinion, it doesn't come from experience! 

I would assume older females to be more tolerant to any males, but idk. 

We need your opinion, @Graceface!

- MantisGirl13

 
Adult orchid females:

  • Petunia wings April 4th.
  • Jasmine wings March 18th


Nymph orchis males:

  • HC4 molted to what we suspect (@MantisGirl13) is subadult but were purchased as i4/i5. Pictures above, note buds.
  • HC6 was purchased as i4/i5. Whatever we determine for HC4 ill take for HC6 as well. A molt soon will help us to know.


Nymph orchid females:

HC3 & HC5 were both purchased as i4/i5.

Genes:

Petunia & Jasmine are said to be sisters (@PlayingMantis), and HC3/4/5/6 are siblings (@Beramoss).

 
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If your male is a sub, he will be about 3-4 wks from molt to adult, then will need 2 wk to be mature after his final molt. Males don't live long after the final molt, only 2-4 months

Orchids take a bit longer to be receptive to breeding. Females are receptive after 3-6 wks from final molt. 

Hope this helps you to do some math and decide what path to take. I would personally speed up the male and try breeding with your adult females. 

 
Graceface said:
If your male is a sub, he will be about 3-4 wks from molt to adult, then will need 2 wk to be mature after his final molt. Males don't live long after the final molt, only 2-4 months

Orchids take a bit longer to be receptive to breeding. Females are receptive after 3-6 wks from final molt. 

Hope this helps you to do some math and decide what path to take. I would personally speed up the male and try breeding with your adult females. 
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Yup thanks. I can pick up more males next week anyways and keep them at room temp for HC3 & HC5 down the road.

 
Don't have to be so experienced to know that my gongy hasn't touched his flies in two days. He's gonna molt. If he's a sub, and his last molt was March 15th, he's due any day, right?

 
If he's sub, then his wingbuds should be swollen if he's gonna molt.

- MantisGirl13

 
Um, I don't think that sub male gongys have small wingbuds. Females do, and presubs, but not subadults. Can I see a pic?

- MantisGirl13

 

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