Hysteresis' Mantis Stream - 2019

[MantisGirl13]

Yep, looks like a subadult male!

- MantisGirl13

 

[hysteresis]

@MantisGirl13 Will my adult females still be receptive when hes ready? The larger girl just molted a week or two ago. Have to check.

 

[hysteresis]

I guess I'll slow these males down and keep them at room temp, and keep the females with the panthers, in the high 70s.

Petunia and Jasmine dont have males, so they're eye candy for now. 

Any risk to female adult orchid females at room temperature? 

 

[MantisGirl13]

@MantisGirl13 Will my adult females still be receptive when hes ready? The larger girl just molted a week or two ago. Have to check.

They should be.

- MantisGirl13

 

[hysteresis]

@MantisGirl13 what would you do? 

Speed the males up and throw them on Petunia and Jasmine, or slow them down and throw them on HC3 and HC5?

 

[MantisGirl13]

You'd probably have better luck keeping them normal or a bit warmer than normal and powerfeed them, then mate with your adult gals. 

- MantisGirl13

 

[hysteresis]

Ahhhh

Great advice. TY.

Are older females more tolerant with young males? Different genes too.

 

[MantisGirl13]

Ahhhh

Great advice. TY.

Are older females more tolerant with young males? Different genes too.

Sure! Just remember, I still haven't bred this species so that's just my opinion, it doesn't come from experience! 

I would assume older females to be more tolerant to any males, but idk. 

We need your opinion, @Graceface!

- MantisGirl13

 

[hysteresis]

We need your opinion, @Graceface!

And @Predatorhousepet too. 

Any advice on the above?

 

[hysteresis]

Adult orchid females:

• Petunia wings April 4th.
  
• Jasmine wings March 18th
  

Nymph orchis males:

• HC4 molted to what we suspect (@MantisGirl13) is subadult but were purchased as i4/i5. Pictures above, note buds.
  
• HC6 was purchased as i4/i5. Whatever we determine for HC4 ill take for HC6 as well. A molt soon will help us to know.
  

Nymph orchid females:

HC3 & HC5 were both purchased as i4/i5.

Genes:

Petunia & Jasmine are said to be sisters (@PlayingMantis), and HC3/4/5/6 are siblings (@Beramoss).

 

[Graceface]

If your male is a sub, he will be about 3-4 wks from molt to adult, then will need 2 wk to be mature after his final molt. Males don't live long after the final molt, only 2-4 months

Orchids take a bit longer to be receptive to breeding. Females are receptive after 3-6 wks from final molt. 

Hope this helps you to do some math and decide what path to take. I would personally speed up the male and try breeding with your adult females. 

 

[hysteresis]

If your male is a sub, he will be about 3-4 wks from molt to adult, then will need 2 wk to be mature after his final molt. Males don't live long after the final molt, only 2-4 months

Orchids take a bit longer to be receptive to breeding. Females are receptive after 3-6 wks from final molt. 

Hope this helps you to do some math and decide what path to take. I would personally speed up the male and try breeding with your adult females. 

Yup thanks. I can pick up more males next week anyways and keep them at room temp for HC3 & HC5 down the road.

 

[hysteresis]

You're on here less, @Graceface.

Miss you, #1fren.

 

[MantisGirl13]

HC4 molted to what we suspect (@MantisGirl13) is subadult but were purchased as i4/i5. Pictures above, note buds

If you purchased it at L5, and it molted once, there it is a subadult. L6 is sub for males.

- MantisGirl13

 

[hysteresis]

Yup. If it werent for those buds, id think he molted to i5. But im a novice in every species I keep, so...

 

[MantisGirl13]

Yup. If it werent for those buds, id think he molted to i5. But im a novice in every species I keep, so...

Much less of a novice than you were when you first joined! 

- MantisGirl13

 

[hysteresis]

Don't have to be so experienced to know that my gongy hasn't touched his flies in two days. He's gonna molt. If he's a sub, and his last molt was March 15th, he's due any day, right?

 

[MantisGirl13]

If he's sub, then his wingbuds should be swollen if he's gonna molt.

- MantisGirl13

 

[hysteresis]

Gongy buds are small. Yeah they're quite prominent, just small in size. Does that sound about right? 

 

[MantisGirl13]

Um, I don't think that sub male gongys have small wingbuds. Females do, and presubs, but not subadults. Can I see a pic?

- MantisGirl13