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Felix Hamann
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Yeah, i looked up the [Herkunft] Origin(?) of fasciata and pennata, and saw that they don't live in Poland. Im sorry for writing this, and thanks for correcting(?).
best regards, Felix
best regards, Felix
Some recent documents show that it's possible that in Spain we have both fasciata and pennata but pennata were generally more abundant.The specimens seem to belong to fasciata. So it can't be from Spain.
It's possible because that document is a taxonomic study of a municipality located in the province of Zaragoza, Aragon, Spain.Wow!I thought there were much more Mantids in Spain, for example: Rivetina, Pseudoyersinia and, of course, Apteromantis. But the document says there is only: Ameles, Mantis, Iris, Empusa and Perlamantis - is this possible?!
best regards, Felix
I do agree with you on the point that in Spain. Now we've only Empusa pennata nor Kaltenbach A. Bolivar, I. or Morales Agacino has anyThat document just summerizes the insects found during that study, as far as I understood it. So not all species naturally occurring in Spain are listed. However, I doubt the identification of Empusa fasciata in Spain. It's more likely the specimen(s) were confounded with E. pennata. Some names are wrongly spelled, as Ameles spallanziana, which has to be A. spallanzania. Further, no evidence whatsoever is given to confirm E. fasciata. I'm still convinced that E. pennata is the only W-European species of this genus.
We are totally relying on the information from European traders for mantis from Europe, as a hobbyist i don't know why if he would want to give us a wrong information which Kamil appear to be very certain. Well, at least the species is identified.I don't trust the words of your trader --> again: fasciata.Good Luck with them.
best regards, Felix
Start packing your backpack and travel to Spain this coming Summer MJ, Morpheus might be able to join you YOu are lucky don't have to travel across the ATlantic ocean to find this speciesi want i want
Thanks José, those are beautiful pics of your E. pennata.Two pictures of pennata male from the last spring in Spain
for taxonomy and comparison with pics of yen_saw's male.
Best Regards
José
If your empusa is large enough to observe the lobes, you can tell which species, check the chart attached previously for details. However, both E. pennicornis and E. pennata lobes are quite similar.Dunno what mine are, they came from alicante spain, though not sure about the other 2,
For me the tricky part was optimum diapause requirement. Best of luck to yours. My female is merely a week old but i am sure the 6-week old male are ready for sure.Coinky dink, was just reading about thses, seem to be ticky to rear hope it all goes well for you and me, btw just now i read that males are ready to mate in 4 day! seems tofast,
I thought you have some readily available with you?Mine where DOA
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