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I've had my first mantis for 3 days now. So glad she lived. One of my cats brought me a full grown female Chinese Praying Mantis. I found her crawling around my apartment this past Tuesday evening. She looked unharmed so I decided to run out quick before Petco closed and buy a tank and some mealworms. I'm keeping her because, from what I guess, she'll die soon because cold weather is coming. I've named her Lucy, after Lucy Liu because they're both Chinese and Ms. Liu played a deadly killer in Kill Bill.

Me, I'm a middle aged female myself, I live in NJ, I have a job, I'm addicted to photography, I'm a budding amatuer naturalist and bugs are my main focus. Mantids and dragonflies are my absolute favorites.

I came here to ask some questions and read. I have only ever observed Chinese Praying Mantids in the wild and looked at many, many amazing pictures on flickr taken by some people that keep all sorts of exotic mantids. But for the past three days I've been doing a lot of reading and learning.

 
Welcome! I will try to answer your questions. Any questions :D ? I do not think you will have much trouble trying to keep her alive hahahaha! I think mealworms will work but I have fed them to my mantids before and the mantids seemed to drop the mealworms because they were too wiggly. Are they not too small for an adult female Chinese Mantis? I seemed to have problems with feeding crickets from pet shops to my mantids about them making the mantids sick. The wild moths outside around lights are probably good to feed her if she does not eat the mealworms. Is your mantis eating? I guess she will lay a fertile ootheca for you. :D

 
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Hello all. I did not see any cat actually carrying the mantid in. Just found her crawling around. I have one cat that brings me big live bugs quite often, I've had cicadas, beettles, and cave crickets brought to me. Some are slightly mangled and die, some appear unharmed and I release. Now I'll be keeping them! I do not know how the cats manage to catch something without harming it, I just know that they do.

Tuesday night I put 4 mealworms in with her. She ate 3 of them while I was at work on Wednesday, the 4th died, I think it might have drowned because I got a little over enthusiastic with the mister and I found the worm in a tiny pool of water. Wednesday night I gave her 3 mealworms and again, while I was at work she ate only 1. I'm feeding her Giant Mealworms.

And ha! Right this very second I just watched her scoop up a mealworm that was stupid enough to climb most of the way up the ladder. She's munching away and the worm is still wiggling. A bit. How cool! First time I get to see her feed! Yay!

And yes, I bought her a ladder. Because she seemed a little clumsy. She's fallen twice on her back that I've seen. I put sticks in her enclosure and did not see her climb on them. Tonight I bought her a wooden bird cage ladder and she has not touched it yet but apparently it works as a food delivery system.

The only bugs I can buy for her at my local Petco are mealworms and crickets. I want to catch bugs for her but I don't know how! That I need tips on. I keep a window partially open for the cats all day so I get flies in here. Right now I have a few that I would love to give to my girl. I did put some fruit in a glass, covered the glass with foil and poked holes in the foil but all I've managed to catch in there are a few little fruit flies. They won't do for food. How do I catch the bigger houseflies? And how do I catch any bugs in the wild? I figure I can catch moths for her at the light by the front door, thank you happy1892 for that tip.

Lucy has a little brown spot on her back and I think I see some darker brown spots on her brown uhm, don't know the name for the body part that's above the wings. I have no idea if it's mold but it looks like it. A little. I got rid of the sticks that were in with her because of it. The sticks were wet, it's been raining here everyday since Lucy arrived, so I was worried that she might have gotten an infection from mold on the wet sticks. Is that possible? I hope not.

Also, I came here via this site http://bugsincyberspace.com/mantid_care.html. I read this bit, "One issue that is common is the sudden appearance of a black liquid on the walls of your pet's habitat. This is fairly rare, but almost always results in death. Theories on the source of why a mantis will sometimes get sick include bacterial infection. This may be prevented with regular changes of substrate and removal of left over parts of feeder insects. I've also noticed that mantises will sometimes excrete surplus liquids via a spraying action. This excretion will turn powdery white in a dry cage, or brownish and sticky in a humid one." Tonight I found not a white powder but a dark brown powder that did look like it could have been sprayed on the bottom of the cage near the base of one of the sticks. I don't know if it came from Lucy, the meal worms or the stick. Can anyone offer any guesses?

Another question - don't they get bored in there all day? Is there anything I can put in there with her to help relieve the boredom? I lock her tank in a room during the day to keep the cats away and carry her out into the living room when I'm home and believe it or not, Lucy seems to be as interested in watching the cats as they are in watching her.

I'm keeping the temperature in my apartment at 70 for her. Does she need a heat lamp or a pad? In the evening I've been putting a little lamp with a 10 watt bulb right next to her tank and she's drawn to it.

I've had her out twice. She wants to climb me and I think eat my face. Or something. I have to stop her climbing befor she gets to my face. I'm worried about taking her out and her flying off somewhere where I can't easily get to her, like behind the fridge or something. Most wild mantids that I've handled have eventually flown away from me. But I see pictures in the galleries here of people taking their mantids outside. How can you be sure you won't lose them? Or can you be sure? I'd love to let her have free reign of the entire apartment but I can't because of the felines. They wouldn't mind if I let her out. At all.

That's it for now! Thanks!

 
Welcome from Kentucky.

There are a ton of people here who will answer all your questions til then I would just say read the forum it's so helpful

My wild caught Carolina has brown spots all over her and it's normal as far as I can tell. I've seen 2 like that.

I would get her some flies though if I were you.

 
Give her something other than mealworms, to fatty as a reg diet, dont let her get near your eyes, welcome and she wont get bored all day, she will be fine, get a net at your local dollar store, and you will have to run around outside catching things, good thing holloween is coming, you can wear a mast an the neighbors wont know it is you with the net, gives u time to slip into an alley and tear off the mast before the men in white catch you, we will have to give you a name, like spiderman, but different! :clown:

 
Tuesday night I put 4 mealworms in with her. She ate 3 of them while I was at work on Wednesday, the 4th died, I think it might have drowned because I got a little over enthusiastic with the mister and I found the worm in a tiny pool of water. Wednesday night I gave her 3 mealworms and again, while I was at work she ate only 1. I'm feeding her Giant Mealworms.

And ha! Right this very second I just watched her scoop up a mealworm that was stupid enough to climb most of the way up the ladder. She's munching away and the worm is still wiggling. A bit. How cool! First time I get to see her feed! Yay!
That is good.
And yes, I bought her a ladder. Because she seemed a little clumsy. She's fallen twice on her back that I've seen. I put sticks in her enclosure and did not see her climb on them. Tonight I bought her a wooden bird cage ladder and she has not touched it yet but apparently it works as a food delivery system.
She needs thick rough sticks to hold onto (usually the part that is rough is the bark).
The only bugs I can buy for her at my local Petco are mealworms and crickets. I want to catch bugs for her but I don't know how! That I need tips on. I keep a window partially open for the cats all day so I get flies in here. Right now I have a few that I would love to give to my girl. I did put some fruit in a glass, covered the glass with foil and poked holes in the foil but all I've managed to catch in there are a few little fruit flies. They won't do for food. How do I catch the bigger houseflies? And how do I catch any bugs in the wild? I figure I can catch moths for her at the light by the front door, thank you happy1892 for that tip.
Houseflies and Blue Bottle Flies (a fly much bigger than Houseflies) are too small. You will need big moths. It takes time to catch grasshoppers and other stuff outside in the grass. Go look in tall grass and push your feet around in the tall grass and be ready for a grass hopper to jump (maybe fly) and then go after it. A net might help. You can buy roaches on the internet but you have to pay for shipping. The roaches that are sold are clean I guess. They do not make your mantis sick and die like the dirty crickets in the pet shops do. And the roaches live much longer. Maybe 1 to 2 years? It varies. There is a roach that lives over ten years. The Macropanesthia rhinoceros.
Lucy has a little brown spot on her back and I think I see some darker brown spots on her brown uhm, don't know the name for the body part that's above the wings. I have no idea if it's mold but it looks like it. A little. I got rid of the sticks that were in with her because of it. The sticks were wet, it's been raining here everyday since Lucy arrived, so I was worried that she might have gotten an infection from mold on the wet sticks. Is that possible? I hope not.
Um, I do not know about that. Mine have them. At first (after molting to adult) they have no spots or tears. But after a few months they start to get tears in their wings and spots like rotting grass. I think it is probably fine but maybe I am wrong.
Also, I came here via this site http://bugsincybersp...ntid_care.html. I read this bit, "One issue that is common is the sudden appearance of a black liquid on the walls of your pet's habitat. This is fairly rare, but almost always results in death. Theories on the source of why a mantis will sometimes get sick include bacterial infection. This may be prevented with regular changes of substrate and removal of left over parts of feeder insects. I've also noticed that mantises will sometimes excrete surplus liquids via a spraying action. This excretion will turn powdery white in a dry cage, or brownish and sticky in a humid one." Tonight I found not a white powder but a dark brown powder that did look like it could have been sprayed on the bottom of the cage near the base of one of the sticks. I don't know if it came from Lucy, the meal worms or the stick. Can anyone offer any guesses?
"One issue that is common is the sudden appearance of a black liquid on the walls of your pet's habitat. This is fairly rare, but almost always results in death." That happened all the time when I fed them crickets from a pet shop (many died). The living crickets smelt bad and their feces smelt and looked bad. Since I fed them Shelfordella lateralis roaches they did not do that. As I fed them more crickets from that place they got more sick until they died vomiting that strong smelling brown stuff. I do not know if that is feces from your mantis.
Another question - don't they get bored in there all day? Is there anything I can put in there with her to help relieve the boredom? I lock her tank in a room during the day to keep the cats away and carry her out into the living room when I'm home and believe it or not, Lucy seems to be as interested in watching the cats as they are in watching her.
No, they do not seem to get bored. If she does not have a good spot to hold onto then she will be moving around (probably trying to find a good spot). Adult female Chinese Mantids like to stay on one spot for like FOREVER! Mantids notice movement very well and that cat is probably scary to the mantis and so the mantis keeps an eye on the cat.
I'm keeping the temperature in my apartment at 70 for her. Does she need a heat lamp or a pad? In the evening I've been putting a little lamp with a 10 watt bulb right next to her tank and she's drawn to it.
No, you do not need it to be warmer but she can do fine if the temperature is about 85 degrees (I mean maybe do better). That would make her live a shorter life. If it is warmer then mantids grow faster and die earlier. If it is cooler then mantids grow slower and die later. But be careful with extreem temperatures and I do not think 70 degrees is too cold. I am keeping my two adult Chinese Mantids at about 78 to 82 degrees and they do fine. It takes energy to heat so I would try and not use it for a few days and start if she looks too slow (when she acts weakish and moves very slowly).
I've had her out twice. She wants to climb me and I think eat my face. Or something. I have to stop her climbing befor she gets to my face. I'm worried about taking her out and her flying off somewhere where I can't easily get to her, like behind the fridge or something. Most wild mantids that I've handled have eventually flown away from me. But I see pictures in the galleries here of people taking their mantids outside. How can you be sure you won't lose them? Or can you be sure? I'd love to let her have free reign of the entire apartment but I can't because of the felines. They wouldn't mind if I let her out. At all.

That's it for now! Thanks!
Adult female Chinese Mantids cannot fly. Well, recently after molting they can (they are light). Adult females also seem to get too weak in the wings as time passes. You do not have to worry about her flying away. Are you sure she is female? And are your sure she is not a Narrow Winged Mantis?
 
Okay, about the stick to hold onto. Do I have to bake them first to get rid of mold or anything?

Where do you buy your roaches? Today I caught 5 crickets for her! One's in there with her right now.

Now what do I feed the crickets? I put in some leaves of a plant I saw them eating.

She seems weak and moves slowly in the cage but when she's out she doesn't move slow at all. I think I'll get her a heat lamp anyway and keep it on her for a little while each day.

I'm sure she's a female, she has 6 segments on her abdomen. I am pretty sure she's a Chinese, the spot between her arms looks yellow but I'm not positive. Is there another way to tell? Did something I said make you suspect she's a Narrow Winged?

 
Hey dtuck91.

I did do a search of the forums, not extensive, I admit, but I can't find an answer to this question:

Is my mantis done with moulting? She looks full grown to me but I'm no expert. I just posted pictures of her if anyone can tell from those. If she's not done moulting, does she need something sturdy to cling to or is the screen on top of the tank enough?

 
She is done with molting. Mantids form their wings with thier final molt. :)

I think that mantids of all ages appreciate having many climbable/grippable surfaces in thier containers. They will come in handy for her when she gets old and has more trouble getting around.

 
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Okay, about the stick to hold onto. Do I have to bake them first to get rid of mold or anything?
I do not but maybe that will help (maybe that is why my mantids died but I do not think so). I do not think it will hurt.
Where do you buy your roaches? Today I caught 5 crickets for her! One's in there with her right now.

Now what do I feed the crickets? I put in some leaves of a plant I saw them eating.

She seems weak and moves slowly in the cage but when she's out she doesn't move slow at all. I think I'll get her a heat lamp anyway and keep it on her for a little while each day.

I'm sure she's a female, she has 6 segments on her abdomen. I am pretty sure she's a Chinese, the spot between her arms looks yellow but I'm not positive. Is there another way to tell? Did something I said make you suspect she's a Narrow Winged?
This place is a good place to buy roaches. Or you could ask on roachforum.com if anybody is selling roaches. Shelfordella lateralis and Lobster Roaches are very good for feeding mantids. For me Shelfordella lateralis seem to be better than Lobster Roaches. They breed fast even when it is cool but the Lobster Roaches slow down very much when it gets cool. Lobster Roaches can climb slippery glass or plastic but the Shelfordella lateralis cannot. Lobster Roaches are much slower than Shelfordella lateralis when running. I have heard Blaptica dubia roaches are very good feeder roaches too. Crickets eat bread, apples, lettuce, meat and whatever LOL! I am pretty sure she is a Chinese Mantis because you could not get the yellow and orange mixed up. No, not what you said but many people do not know about the Narrow Winged Mantis and so I think they could easily get the two mixed up.
 

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