Ian
Well-known member
Okay, I have struck somewhat of a...predicament with paypal that I am hoping some of you might be able to reassure me about, or give me some idea of what to expect?
Anyway, I purchased some goods from a guy in the UK (Mr Moen, living in Oxford, so he said) who was supposedly part of a company selling electrical goods. I found this guy on a wholesale website, so just assumed he was a reputable dealer. I looked at his registered business number, etc, and saw his credit reports on UKdata.com, and came to a conclusion that he was a legitimate guy, despite the fact his prices were VERY low.
So, I went ahead and purchased the products I wanted, which came to £250. ($450). Anyway, I was a little suspicious about him, as he kept sending me these typical lovely, I want to have a relationship with you "business partner" emails. So, the day after I sent the $455 to him, I filed a claim with paypal, just in case I did not recieve my items. The paypal buyer protection claim insures you up to £1000 for any transaction made via paypal (there are obviously some other terms with paypal on the buyer protection claim, but none that are appropriate for the transaction.)
Anyway, 3 days passed and he said my items were on the way. I believed him. However, I recieved another email from him, 5 days passed, and he said:
"How are you and business today? I know you are kind of wondering and worried over your ipod nano but not to worry because we just conluded your shipping arrangement right now. Infact, as a result of high demand, our Uk office became short of stock hence, my cEO adviced that we ship from our Florida office and because we know you will order more as result of our last chatting, we had to ship 20 units."
My arse! Anyway I went along with this, and said yes I will send you the payment ASAP via Western Union (obviosuly I wasn't going to, but was waiting until my claim had finished on paypal.) Anyway there were 4 days left until the claim I escalated with paypal (for the $450 I sent) was over, and if this man (Mr Moen) did not make any replies to the claim as to why he should keep the money, I would recieve a full refund.
So I waited.
No replies were made by Mr Doen for the transaction.
And the 3rd July came (today) and I was getting rather excited about recieving my £250 back that I was almost now certain I had been scammed out of. However, come 16:32, I recieved this email from paypal:
"Dear Ian Batten,
We have concluded our investigation into your Buyer Claim.
We have decided in your favour and have recovered funds from the seller."
I was thinking at this point....bingo, I have my money back. But it was followed by this:
"We were able to recover $14.81 USD, and this amount has been credited to you."
At this point, I am thinking, oh my god...is this a joke? I soon realised that no, it wasnt a joke, but decided not to go off and cry in a dark corner, as that would not resolve anything. So, what the heck has happened to the rest of my money?
Well apparently there wasn't sufficient funds in his paypal account to refund me the full amount...so what happens now? I have read some terribly distressing stories online of this happening to people over amounts in the thousands...and them not recieving a full refund.
Has this ever happend to anyone? If not, anyone got any idea if I WILL recieve the rest of my money back? Its really hacked me off. But I guess if you don't take risks as such, then you will never blank out the fake sellers in this market.
Anyway, I purchased some goods from a guy in the UK (Mr Moen, living in Oxford, so he said) who was supposedly part of a company selling electrical goods. I found this guy on a wholesale website, so just assumed he was a reputable dealer. I looked at his registered business number, etc, and saw his credit reports on UKdata.com, and came to a conclusion that he was a legitimate guy, despite the fact his prices were VERY low.
So, I went ahead and purchased the products I wanted, which came to £250. ($450). Anyway, I was a little suspicious about him, as he kept sending me these typical lovely, I want to have a relationship with you "business partner" emails. So, the day after I sent the $455 to him, I filed a claim with paypal, just in case I did not recieve my items. The paypal buyer protection claim insures you up to £1000 for any transaction made via paypal (there are obviously some other terms with paypal on the buyer protection claim, but none that are appropriate for the transaction.)
Anyway, 3 days passed and he said my items were on the way. I believed him. However, I recieved another email from him, 5 days passed, and he said:
"How are you and business today? I know you are kind of wondering and worried over your ipod nano but not to worry because we just conluded your shipping arrangement right now. Infact, as a result of high demand, our Uk office became short of stock hence, my cEO adviced that we ship from our Florida office and because we know you will order more as result of our last chatting, we had to ship 20 units."
My arse! Anyway I went along with this, and said yes I will send you the payment ASAP via Western Union (obviosuly I wasn't going to, but was waiting until my claim had finished on paypal.) Anyway there were 4 days left until the claim I escalated with paypal (for the $450 I sent) was over, and if this man (Mr Moen) did not make any replies to the claim as to why he should keep the money, I would recieve a full refund.
So I waited.
No replies were made by Mr Doen for the transaction.
And the 3rd July came (today) and I was getting rather excited about recieving my £250 back that I was almost now certain I had been scammed out of. However, come 16:32, I recieved this email from paypal:
"Dear Ian Batten,
We have concluded our investigation into your Buyer Claim.
We have decided in your favour and have recovered funds from the seller."
I was thinking at this point....bingo, I have my money back. But it was followed by this:
"We were able to recover $14.81 USD, and this amount has been credited to you."
At this point, I am thinking, oh my god...is this a joke? I soon realised that no, it wasnt a joke, but decided not to go off and cry in a dark corner, as that would not resolve anything. So, what the heck has happened to the rest of my money?
Well apparently there wasn't sufficient funds in his paypal account to refund me the full amount...so what happens now? I have read some terribly distressing stories online of this happening to people over amounts in the thousands...and them not recieving a full refund.
Has this ever happend to anyone? If not, anyone got any idea if I WILL recieve the rest of my money back? Its really hacked me off. But I guess if you don't take risks as such, then you will never blank out the fake sellers in this market.
