Peruvian (Psuedo/Phyllovates sp) penultimate female

[padkison]

 

[robo mantis]

cool

 

[Rick]

Nice. Let me know when you have some available.

 

[yen_saw]

Nice pic Perry, looks like ready to molt. It is a she or he? I have counted 6 molts right now for two of my subadults which look like female, but still guessing the gender.

 

[padkison]

It's a female.

At penultimate stage, I can definitely see the difference in number of abdominal segments. Also, the male's antenna become feathery looking.

I have 1 penultimate male, 2 penultimate females, a pre-penultimate female, and one who is 2 molts behind all the others due to timid eating.

The penultimate mantids recently molted, so it will be awhile until I see adults.

Here's the male, photos aren't good enough to see the antenna difference. Wing buds look different in the photos, I'll have to check that.

 

[yen_saw]

Ah Thanks Perry!!

I think i have two subadult female in this case. Here is one of the freshly molted subadult female (i think), she is only about 3.5 cm

 

[wuwu]

they are much smaller than i thought. i have 2 sub adult females, 3 sub sub females, 1 sub male, and 1 sub sub male. hopefully we can breed these!

 

[padkison]

The sub adults I have are about the size of P. agrionina sub adults except there doesn't appear to be as much of a size difference in the sexes.

I'm expecting the adult females to be slightly shorter than a P. agrionina female and also to have a slighter build. I expect the males to be larger than then P. agrionina males.

 

[yen_saw]

First adult female Peruvian stick mantis I had is about 5 cm. She went through 7 molts. I have many females and only 2 males at subadult stage. They are not very cannibalistic species at all.

 

[padkison]

I am curious as to the M/F ratio other people have. My ratio for the sub adults is 1 male to 3 females. I have 1 sub sub adult that I have not determined yet.

I have many females and only 2 males at subadult stage.

 

[Rob Byatt]

Well my ratio is very good; 19 females to 18 males and most are adult now. I put photos up a while back .........

http://www.mantidforum.com/forum/viewtopic...&highlight=

 

[wuwu]

First adult female Peruvian stick mantis I had is about 5 cm. She went through 7 molts. I have many females and only 2 males at subadult stage. They are not very cannibalistic species at all.

nope, not at all. i find that they are rather communal.

 

[padkison]

Adult Female. Anyone been breeding these yet?

 

[Rob Byatt]

Nice colours on that one !

I have 5 mated females and two ootheca so far. They are very easy to pair up, which is an added bonus !

Good luck with yours !

Rob.

 

[Christian]

Hi.

Do the wings get green later on? Every Vates/Phyllovates/Pseudovates I've ever seen had greenish wings, irrespective of body color.

Regards,

Christian

 

[Rob Byatt]

Hi Christian,

I've had only one male with a lateral green line (costal), but no others. It turned green in the normal time span for a mantis of this size.

I am disapointed that none are fully green on the wings.

Rob.

 

[Christian]

Thanks. That's interesting.

Regards,

Christian

 

[padkison]

Male Peruvian at 2 weeks. Wing color change to green.

 

[wuwu]

two of my females have matured and they both have green wings. one has green green wings, the other has brownish green.