[SIZE=12pt]Bingo Rick, [/SIZE]today I just about gave up and went to put the 2 Chinese mantis back in there cage, left them out for a few day in a room on a plant. Just as I moved the plant to get them back in, he flew up in the air like crazy and landed straight on her the wrong way and with in a split second he turned around the right way, after a few mins he kept jolting her with his body and moving about a lot, then after 20 mins around, they was hooked up and she looked like she was loving it, they was having sex for about 30mins, then just as finished she looked around and that’s when I stepped in with a fly, gave it to her and got him off just in time. A happy ending for the male. I recorded the hole thing so all I have to do now is edit the show and I will stick the link here on this forum for you to all see, also will have it on my website.Thanks for you help, anyone know how long it may be before she will lay the othicas (Eggs)