Identification Malaysia february 2012

[melano]

Hi Gripen,

Thank you for your advices

The cage are not so large... Hope it will be enough

 

[gripen]

I only say that because they can damage them selves maneuvering in small cages. A one foot net cage would be ideal

 

[Bartek]

So to be clear : we keep them 3 per one cage which is perfect for one..

Anyway, they seems to be quiet, only if we switch on the light they seems to be atracted. Probably they have to stay in shadow places. So, no one can sex the last one toxodera? Its female for sure?

 

[agent A]

The one with the red abdomen appears female

But don't quote me

 

[brancsikia339]

As gripen said, Toxoderas and Paratoxoderas need a LOT of room to live and moult. They'll probably only eat flying food.

 

[brancsikia339]

This time I died (almost) for true :angel:

There is S5-1 (Fifth species, specimen 1) and... Let see the pictures first...

We are almost sure... IT'S AN ADULT FEMALE !!!!

Bartek had to punch me several times to check I was still alive !!! (I have terrible bruises now lol)

It might be a freshly moulted adult female. She is very lightly colored. Good luck!!!!

 

[guapoalto049]

Without doubt the citrus colored one is a female. Very neat specimens

 

[brancsikia]

Soon more abdomen pictures for sexing the others specimens...

Thank also to brancsikia for the genus tips

So if I understand...

S1 ans S2 is Paratoxodera

S3 is Stenotoxodera

S4 and S5 are Toxodera

Am I right ?

Yes and no

My fault, S1 is Metatoxodera.

You got 4 genera!

Great!

Cheers

 

[brancsikia339]

Yes and no

My fault, S1 is Metatoxodera.

You got 4 genera!

Great!

Cheers

4 genera? That's amazing!!

 

[hibiscusmile]

walter is the old guy with arms crossed.

http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/2009/12/24/jeff-dunham-interview-for-philips-arena-show-december-28/

 

[hibiscusmile]

Walter is the old man

http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/2009/12/24/jeff-dunham-interview-for-philips-arena-show-december-28/

 

[hibiscusmile]

http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/2009/12/24/jeff-dunham-interview-for-philips-arena-show-december-28/

walter is the old man dummy!

 

[hibiscusmile]

I give up, I tried it 3 times and it did not work, now they are all up there.

 

[melano]

Sixth species find... pictures soon

We begin to obtain very nice informations about what we have. Thanks to Yen with the article he send us (Even in french it's not easy to understand lol)... and Brancsikia who begin to determinate each species and sex...

More news soon

Ps: Stop drinking Rebecca lol

 

[melano]

So thanks to Brancsikia... there is the name of the species...

S1

Metatoxodera subparallela, B male

S2

Paratoxodera gigliotosi, male

S3

Stenotoxodera porioni, male

S4

Toxodera fimbriata, male

S5

Toxodera integrifolia, female

S6 to come

 

[brancsikia339]

So thanks to Brancsikia... there is the name of the species...

S1

Metatoxodera subparallela, B male

S2

Paratoxodera gigliotosi, male

S3

Stenotoxodera porioni, male

S4

Toxodera fimbriata, male

S5

Toxodera integrifolia, female

S6 to come

Can you interbreed the Toxodera integrifolia female with one of the toxodera males to produce an ooth?

 

[agent A]

Can you interbreed the Toxodera integrifolia female with one of the toxodera males to produce an ooth?

A better idea would be to use the females pheremones and/or a light to attract a male of the same species

 

[gripen]

A better idea would be to use the females pheremones and/or a light to attract a male of the same species

Darn! You stole the words out of my mouth!

 

[agent A]

Darn! You stole the words out of my mouth!

Quod ego sum fur!!!!

Btw that's latin for "because I'm a thief" lol

 

[melano]

I already though about that... But if she just molded... she still not mature and she still not emit any pheromones. And we will be back before she'll be ready to be mate

On the other way... I don't think she just mold as the color and appearance of the wings don't change...