Identification Malaysia february 2012

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I'll kill you if it's not a female now :2guns: giving me false hope ;) lol

look nice at the end of the abdomen... the focus is not very good but there is more segment...

Waiting for any confirmation... :)

 
I'll kill you if it's not a female now :2guns: giving me false hope ;) lol

look nice at the end of the abdomen... the focus is not very good but there is more segment...

Waiting for any confirmation... :)
I can pretty much guarantee that it is a female.
 
OMG are you sure 100%

I think I count 8 segments...

I though female be little more bigger also like S5-A

Now I'll not be able to sleep... Thank you Gripen lol

 
look nice at the end of the abdomen... the focus is not very good but there is more segment...

Waiting for any confirmation... :)
So I'm looking close at the abdomen. At first it looks like a female, but if you look closely, There is an extra segment, indicating it is a male.

 
while I only was watching this thread and not posting, I feel the need to say a few things that may help you.

we try but even if they find a "lot" of them... it's not easy to find them... I think the probability to find a specific male is weak... Then we have to mate them and it's a very "shy" species... We have to "hide us" as they don't feel comfortable when we observe them...
you can do a few things to help with shy mantids...

you can make a "blind" to view them while they can't see you. just take a tarp or bed sheet and make a hole in it, just large enough to view and photograph the mantids.

if this is impractical or not worth the time and effort, then keep the bottom of the cages at a hight that is above your shoulders...yet still low enough to view them.

my shy mantids were far less scared of me when they were above me.

as for ants...

don't take chances if you try to attract males to the females cage. ants will find a way to enter the cage. STICKY TAPE WONT WORK!

the ants that get stuck will just turn out to be a "BRIDGE" that will help the other ants cross to the cage/mantis.

tray of water works for the most part and should be used all the time.

I lost an anole thinking that ants cant cross tape.

Harry

 
the cages are the same find on mantisplace.com

Butterfly Cube 13" X 13" X 13" (http://mantisplace.com/mantisnursery.html)... a little small for here but we never imagine find some Toxoderas...

Hey Warpdrive... we do that :) we put a bed sheet between them and us :)

One male died but it was injured... every body else are fine and the female eat her first small butterfly... refusing bee, moth or too big butterflies.

Her color not changed... same appearance so I hope she was already mated :) . Her stomach full on the opposite of the males... let we see...

My battery charger is broken... so perhaps I have to make a "quick" go and back to Kuala Lumpur

 
So who is right now ? gripen or brancsikia339 ?

Where is my whip ? :devil:
if I had to put money on it, I would say that Gripen is correct.

but my vote doesn't count because I'm not into S&M and I don't like whips. :clown:

my best wishies for you to keep finding some good food for her to eat.

above all, thank you so much for the great photos.

Harry

 
Hey Malik I am so happy to see so many updates!

Guys, Bartek is dealing with the mantis, I suggest you contact Bartek if you have interest in buying any malaysian species. ;)

Malik is there for documenting...

I posted a picture of that flower mimicking looking sp. I was told by a friend where I discovered the picture that the female was freshly molted and unfortunately darkens. Only time will tell if that specimen remains a flower mimicking mantis... Let's hope as most are dead leaf mimickers!!!!

Malik, have you noticed any of the females releasing their lady farts? Lol AKA pheromones ;) . If you notice more than 1 then I recommend keeping those two females as far a part as possible as some males flock to different species when they are horny!

Let's all hope for the best!

Although I am not surprised you're keeping them in net cages, considering they are already in a super humid location, what have you been relying on a method of watering them? Rain spells?

For any Malaysian sp that I keep I use a drip system. Like chameleons, I've noticed these malayasian mantids are truly stimulated by moving droplets and respond well.

I've actually done an experiment and my dead leaf and orchid all hang around the leaves that have moving water dripping from them.

These Malaysian mantids are without a doubt heavy drinkers!

I'm not sure how easy it is to catch flying insects? But if it's difficult I suggest surrounding yourself with some plants that attract butterflies.

 
Sorry double post due to cruddy iPod.... I also recommend offering them ground dwelling insects. See what they prefer...

They have very lanky arms, but for what reason? To snatch a flying insect from a distance? Or to hang upside down and have a nice reach for a ground insect? I hope you can find out where they hang out. If they are in the shade, I am assuming they are either low to the floor of the forest, or some place deep inside a heavy foliaged tree with bark climbing insects to feed on..

I am soooo fascinated! This thread is crazy fun to check back to! Thanks Malik and Bartek! :)

 
Yes !!! I just find my poisoned spiny whip !!!

Can you please provide me your address brancsikia339 ?

Ok about news only some males eats and the female only eat 1 small butterfly

I begin to worry for her... Any more suggestion for food... I tried moths, butterflies, flies, bees... She seems fine and full but I would prefer if she eats more

 
Offer her something like a katydid...

How are you hydrating them?

Offer them a short time of freedom to explore some space to regulate their own body temp.

A short time of freedom = close watch! :0

 

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