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Many of the animals that mount the same sex, also will mount other species and even inanimate objects. But humans have been known to do that too. :lol:
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Phil, I don't remember saying abortion was murder, so if you would like to do the laborious task of finding the post where I said that, it would be greatly appreciated. In the meantime, I know I've always believed in what I said above, that abortion should not be used as birth control, but those who get an abortion should not be attacked and ridiculed as animals. Humans aren't the ones to judge. Phil, you making a statement about what I should or should not know is rather unlike you. There are many subjects I know about, yet have absolutely no experience or probably should "not" know about. In relation to the prison system, it was a multicultural class I've taken where a whole unit was devoted to the prison society. Also, listening and reading lectures form prison inmates regarding prison life can change ones perspective. Perhaps you should do the same. In other words, this "careful research" has already been done.You are diluting the force of yr argument, MantidLord, to a point where it is difficult to see your point, probably because you are being reactive rather than proactive.
Egregious errors like this don't help your case, either. There is no reason that you should know much about prison society, but if you don't, don't make statements like this without careful research.
Still, I continue to enjoy your posts! I can't remember if you are one of those who consider abortion murder. If so, could you reply to my earlier post about suitable punishments for the murderers who carry it out?
For a 40 year old, you obviously are immature. Rather than attack my argument, you go ahead and attack me. In a debate, that's called ad hominem. Whatever the case, I'll stoop down to your level in order to answer you. I've never spent time in prison in my life, never been arrested. Never committed a crime. Never had any family in prison. As such, never drank alcohol, never stole, never smoke, never illegally driven a car. Just because I READ BOOKS about various subjects, you want to assume I've experienced those things? Pathetic. Obviously someone as uncultured as you can't relate to other people or other cultures, so it's best that you don't argue anything, because you know your brain can't handle coming back with a valid response. So I accept you stepping out of the "argument".Humans ARE animals. Whatever. You've obviously spent more time in prison than I, so I can't argue anything there.
Thank you Massaman, this I believe in. And you're right, no point in arguing. Obviously Patrick is too single minded to understand these views or at least understand that this is what others believe in.well according to the bible people are not animals but made in gods image and if thats the case I doubt god would be called a animal and dont believe in we evolved but wont make any arguments because it is a no win situation and not into confrontations and turn the other way if any are forged!
I guess so. It's unfortunate but don't be too hard on yourself.I guess my small mind just can't comprehend your notions that humans are not animals.
Yeah, witnessed this first hand at PetSmart! :lol:- Guinea Pig (Domestic)
Yes, very hmmmm, and I'm out of here after this.This thread...............hmmmm.
Phil, I don't appreciate you putting words into my mouth, I never said humans weren't mammals. I can pursue a degree in a biological science and maintain my beliefs. Obviously, there are Christian biologists who don't believe in evolution nor the idea that humans are animals. Surely you know this? Regardless, when people call humans animals, they tend to (at least in my experience) blame everything that humans do as natural. Humans are natural so they're only doing what they should naturally do. That's the main reason why I refrain from using the term. That and what Massaman posted.Yes, very hmmmm, and I'm out of here after this.
OK, Manridlord:
If you pursue a degree in biology and affirm that humans are not mammals,let alone "animals" you will have problems. Surely you know this?
I spent six months as a medic at Cook County Jail (good old "31st and California" for you Chicagoans) and my son spent years as a CO in both state (AZ) and Federal Prisons before joining ICE. I called him for his opinion on this topic and it agreed exactly with mine (surprise!).. Referring to the 2,000,000 or so prisoners in the US as "like animals" and therefore less, in some way, than those in the general population, does not do you or your argument much good.
Prisoners who are in for any length of time, though, do tend to join "gangs" for protection and this may be as high as 85% among long timers. In many ways, these simple organizations, call them "tribes" if you will, have many advantages over what you call the "real world"; they have no lawyers senators or representatives , for a start. Enforcement is often brutal, but the "real world" that threw them in jail to be "like animals" is pretty brutal, too. It's just that most of the brutality is hidden from the general public.
Sexual intercourse among male prisoners usually occurs between two heterosexual men and is based on domination, usually by threats. The prison population usually regards the dominant partner as "straight" and the submissive partner as "a queer". Simple as that.
I notice that you say that you never stated that abortion is murder and I believe you, but as a matter of interest can you state your view on whether it is or is not?
Cheers!
Humans are mammals but they aren't animals? Lol, how do you figure that? Last time I checked, all mammals are animals.Phil, I don't appreciate you putting words into my mouth, I never said humans weren't mammals. I can pursue a degree in a biological science and maintain my beliefs. Obviously, there are Christian biologists who don't believe in evolution nor the idea that humans are animals.
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