What you think about Garlic?
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You will only know when u do it, I just don't know! R there vampires about? :blink:
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PhilinYuma
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You have no reason to believe that your mantis's vomiting is due to infection. Even if it were, garlic is not an antibiotic (bacteria killer).
"In test tube studies garlic has been found to have antibacterial, antiviral, and antifungal activity." from wikipedia. I know that from one Phd when i asked him "what natural substance can i give my mantid to get rid those bacterial infections?" He named just 3 honey, garlic and propolis. Due to small amount of honey in this year guy from who i take all natural honey is out of his products.You have no reason to believe that your mantis's vomiting is due to infection. Even if it were, garlic is not an antibiotic (bacteria killer).
PS."You have no reason to believe that your mantis's vomiting is due to infection." i took this one from one guy who was feeding this one with roaches when i saw his colony and all this mess i asumed that mantid can be poisoned with fungus or bacteria from roaches.
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This. You do not know what the cause is.You have no reason to believe that your mantis's vomiting is due to infection. Even if it were, garlic is not an antibiotic (bacteria killer).
PhilinYuma
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Oh dear! Let's try this.
All studies that I have seen showing "antibacterial activity" in fresh garlic have two things in common:
They are all in vitro studies, like this one: http://maxwellsci.com/print/ajms/v2-62-65.pdf. There are no studies, to my knowledge of antibacterial activity in vivo in humans, let alone in insects.
They claim that garlic is bacteriostatic, not bactericidal. Once out of the influence of a bacteriostatic agent, bacteria can grow again.
Any therapeutic agent given by mouth is not likely to be very effective if the subject is vomiting.
In order for the garlic to be effective, the infection would have to be isolated to the GI tract. In order for gut bacteria to survive, they must have a substrate. Mammalian feces are an excellent bacterial culture medium, and some cockroaches have gut bacteria that famously break down cellulose. If you check the digestive processes of insects, though, you will find that the food, contained for much of its time in a bacteria filtering peritrophic matrix, has very little to live on unless it is being constantly ingested (bad husbandry).. The antibacterial effect of garlic deteriorates with age, so it is unlikely to survive digestion (no one has ever claimed that it would) to attack a systemic infection.
So did you feed your mantis garlic? Would it take it? Has it stopped vomiting?
I can understand your wanting to do something for your mantis, and you can argue that (so far as we know!) it won't do any harm, but it is not a great idea to treat any living thing if you don't know what the problem is. Remember that if the roaches seemed healthy, bacteria or no, there is little reason to suppose that they would harm the mantis, and fungi more commonly invade an insect through its exoskeleton than through the gut. Fatal vomiting will occur if a mantis's gut is blocked, for whatever reason, but sometimes it just vomits after overeating.
Good luck, and let us know how you and the mantis make out.
Hello thank you for reply i gave him some 
and he was sunbatching all the day he stopped vomiting, maybe its the last phase of dying i dont know but he is standing on the ground still. Tomorrow i will try to give him somethng to eat i tried today if hes interested in eating and he showed some will chasing down cricket but i took it.
and he was sunbatching all the day he stopped vomiting, maybe its the last phase of dying i dont know but he is standing on the ground still. Tomorrow i will try to give him somethng to eat i tried today if hes interested in eating and he showed some will chasing down cricket but i took it.
